“It’s meant to feel quite grounded”: Matt Reeves’ Remarks About The Batman Franchise Makes Appearance of a Fan-Favorite Villain Quite Difficult

Batman has been an icon of pop culture for decades. But as they say, a hero is as good as his villain. From Joker to Bane, Batman has been unlucky, or maybe lucky, to have great villains to make him one of the most respected heroes.

Adaptations of Batman have been common in the live-action genre for many years now. Matt Reeves’ The Batman is the recent one among them, but it chose a slightly different path to show a grittier and grounded version of Gotham.

Matt Reeves’ Vision Doesn’t Allow Mr. Freeze

Matt Reeves‘ The Batman does not involve over-the-top action and superpowers. Robert Pattinson‘s Batman is also slightly different from the rich playboy and vigilante by night that the audience has seen before. He is emotional, still learning, makes mistakes, and is more driven by trauma and hunger for justice than high-tech gadgets.

Even the villain like the Riddler shown in The Batman was very different from Jim Carrey’s campy version in the 90s. Now, as The Batman II is next on the line, fans are naturally curious about the villain, and some speculations are mentioning Mr. Freeze too. However, Reeves’ recent interview with SFX (via Deadline) hints that all the speculations are way farsighted as of now.

What was important to me was to find a way to take these pop icons, these mythic characters that everybody knows, and translate it so that Gotham feels like a place in our world … It’s meant to feel quite grounded.

Reeves’ wants to stick with his grounded approach to make his movie more relatable to the audience. Mr. Freeze’s backstory involves cryogenic technology and a sub-zero suit, which might not be believable in Reeves’ grounded plot.

Villains like Joker, Penguin, and Riddler seem more believable in real-world scenarios. Reeves also mentioned that the upcoming Penguin spin-off will be a sort of entry point to The Batman II. So, there might be a possibility that Penguin will become the main villain in the upcoming sequel.

Possibility of Mr. Freeze and Gentleman Ghost in The Batman Franchise

Despite the fact that there are many odds, Reeves does not completely disregard the possibility of Mr. Freeze in his universe. When talking to Collider, he explained the difficulties that such a fantastical character brings and how it can be used.

Even the idea of something like Mr. Freeze, that such a great story, right? I think there’s actually a grounded version of that story, which could be really powerful and could be really great.

This shows that Reeves is not completely against bringing Mr. Freeze into his universe. However, he would need to find a grounded and realistic story for the character, which might not be comically accurate to its origin.

There are, however, some characters that could look incredibly far-fetched. During the SFX interview with Reeves, the director was asked whether they plan on adding Gentleman Ghost and his response was,

Gentleman Ghost is probably pushed a bit too far for us to be able to find a way to do, but there is a fun way to think about how we would take characters that might push over into a bit of the fantastical and find a way to make sense of that.

Reeves’ obsession with realism is not about the characters of the villains. In an interview with CBR, the director revealed that he is more interested in exploring how someone becomes a villain. How someone’s flaws can lead him or her to start doing something wrong, which eventually leads to an evil path.

Matt Reeves wants to create a Gotham that feels like it could exist in our world. The director wants to present the struggles, crime, and challenges of the city in such a way that the possibility of the rise of a vigilante like Batman feels real.

The Batman II will be released in theaters on October 2, 2026.